TheWaster.com :: Art Brut The European Outsiders

Art Brut are a British indie rock band that has been building a consistently growing cult following for a few years now. Their name refers to outsider art. That being the art made by outcasts and other marginalized people. However the band themselves and the music they make are not nearly as grim as that sounds. In fact, quite the opposite, they are a friendly, chatty bunch who present a most entertaining live show. The band has just released their third album titled Art Brut vs Satan and are presently touring it around the globe. Catching up with bandleader Eddie Argos before the third of five consecutive sold out shows at The Mercury Lounge in New York City, it was Q&A time with the literary frontman.

Q: How did the album cover art come together? Did you contact comic book artist Jeff Lemire?

Eddie: He wrote this book called "Essex County" which I really liked. I review comics for an online blog. I reviewed his comic and he read it. He sent me a nice email and said he was a fan of the band, and if you ever need any artwork, to get in touch.

Q: The cover depicts a city facing downward (with the name "Satan" upside down) and a little country cottage facing up, with the words "Art Brut" next to it.

As a metaphor - at the moment, big bands in the music scene like Radiohead and The Killers would be big, huge towers - and Art Brut just a little wooden shack in the middle of nowhere.

Q: Did you tell Jeff to draw that specific thing?

Eddie: No, no. This was his idea. I love what he does, so I told him to do whatever he thinks best.

Q: Was this the only submission?

No, he sent 5 or 6 in, and we chose that one. The other pieces ended up on different things. For instance, the "Alcoholics Unanimous" single cover. Also a "DC Comics" style drawing of the band that we turned into a T-shirt."

Q: Your latest album was produced by Frank Black (formerly Black Francis of The Pixies). Do you have any interesting stories about him?

He was just really cool. I thought I'd be intimidated by him, because he's the dude from The Pixies. But, when we arrived, we met him at the airport. He was such a cool guy that we couldn't be intimidated by him. He gave us a hug and ride in his car. He kept lending us his car. Mike from our road crew was driving it. He kept trying to lend it to me and I was so tempted. But, I've got no license and I can't drive! I'm not usually interested, but the thought of driving Frank Black's car seems amazing to me. I would have crashed it, though and he wouldn't have liked that.

Q: You recorded the record right near where he lives?

He lives in Eugene, Oregon and we recorded it in nearby Salem. It's where he records his albums.

Q: Did he tell you any stories about The Pixies on the road?

A little bit. He wasn't specific, but he kept referring to 'my old band' and we knew what he meant.

Q: Well, they've reunited recently for a tour.

They're playing here, I think.

Q: You mean here at The Mercury Lounge?

Yeah, they're playing 25 nights in a row here - though I might have dreamt that.

Q: Ha, ha. OK. I think Art Brut on 5 consecutive nights is as big as they can get here. All the shows sold out well in advance and it's been nothing but the most happening scene in town and the place to be. OK, you've stated that Vincent Van Gogh is your favorite artist. Take a look at these Van Gogh paintings (I brought along small images of some of his most famous works) - which one do you like the best?

I've always liked "Starry Night".

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“ It was amazing. Pitchfork actually filmed it, to put up on their website. So, I kind of hid my fanboy tendencies. If they hadn't been there filming it all, I would have been jumping all around . I love DC comics and it was exciting to see all the rooms where these writers work. .”

- Eddie Argos on touring DC Comics in NYC
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Q: What is it about his particular style that you enjoy.

I always loved his work, as well as the romantic stories that go with it.

Q: The fact that he cut off his ear?

But he didn't, did he? Gauguin did it. [Note, Paul Gauguin was a fellow artist and Van Gogh's best friend] They had a fight about whether art should be imaginary things, or real things. So they had an intense sword fight about it. That's how he got cut like that. But, since they were really such good friends, he kept it a secret and took the blame himself.

Q: You also create your own visual art, correct?

Yes, I paint. I like it a lot. It's fun for me.

Q: Another music act you've mentioned you're a fan of is "Half Man Half Biscuit". Did you know that someone set up a Twitter account for the sole purpose of sharing great one-liners from their songs?

Yeah, sure. I follow that page. I love 'em. The latest album is pretty good, but the one before "Achtung Bono" is my favorite. Very smart music.

Q: On to your music then. Your song "Demons Out!" is a blistering commentary on the current state of music. One lyric goes "we're doing this for you so you better be grateful." You're doing this for the fans? What you actually do? Or exposing the other bands your rail against?

People should appreciate us more (laughter). I hate bands that say 'oh, no man - we're writing these songs for ourselves. We recorded them in our bedrooms and were just so happy other people like them.' But, why would you write songs for yourself? I mean, I enjoy writing songs and I think it's cathartic. But those 'bedroom bands' piss me off. I think everyone writes songs for other people to hear them.

Q: Your song "Slap Dash For No Cash" you have the great line that goes "cool your warm jets, Brian Eno." The reference is not only to his very first solo album of the same name, but to a loose and unconventional way of recording, correct?

Absolutely. He recorded all of those "No Wave" bands in New York. However, he has also tended to overproduce things sometimes as well.

Q: It's funny because he's also the producer of the band you give the biggest stick to, that being U2.

That's a weird coincidence that must has snuck into my subconscious. The fact that I mention Brian Eno and U2 in the same song and he produced their latest album.

Q: He's actually produced or co-produced a number of their records. Moving on through your current record, on the song "The Replacements" at the very end you are laughing when you say 'second hand CD's' - what's making you laugh?

It's quite a funny thing to be doing. I actually wanted to get rid of that, but then Frank Black said 'no keep it in, it makes it more human.'

Q: I think it does too. It's not on the first time you say that line, but closer to the end.

It's a funny thought - though I am sincere about it. I'm delighted that second hand CD's are cheaper. But as I was singing it, the ludicrousness of what I was saying sort of got to me. That was probably the first take. I was writing the words right there. The idea had just come to me as I was doing it. So there was probably a bit of me laughing with joy, knowing how to finish the song.

Q: Cool. Ok, another song on the record - "Summer Job" seems destined to be the good time cruising in the car summer song. It's a complete song from start to finish. Do you feel like it has possible single potential?

I thought it might be the next one, but now I think we'll be going with "DC Comics."

Q: Which is another excellent song. Speaking of which, I know you were just given the grand tour of the DC comics offices here in New York. How was all that?

It was amazing. Pitchfork actually filmed it, to put up on their website. So, I kind of hid my fanboy tendencies. If they hadn't been there filming it all, I would have been jumping all around . I love DC comics and it was exciting to see all the rooms where these writers work.

Q: Who are some of your fave writers?

Dan Jurgens, who invented Booster Gold. He wrote a lot of Superman as well. Then there's Jeff Katz who wrote Booster Gold as well. He also just produced the Wolverine film.

Q: Have you considered writing your own graphic novel?

Well, I would love to write Booster Gold. I wouldn't want to invent anymore super heroes though. I think it's done. I think there are enough of them. So, if I wrote a comic it would be about something else.

Q: Are there any books you're reading right now?

I'm reading ‘Our Band Could Be Your Life: Scenes from the American Indie Underground, 1981-1991.' It's interesting because originally I didn't really like a lot of American underground music when I was growing up. I know loads about Mudhoney now, but I've got no idea what they sound like, which is pretty funny.

Q: But you know about them now.

They're in the book.

Q: What about Sonic Youth?

Yes. They cover about 13 bands. Mission of Burma, Sonic Youth, The Replacements are all prominently featured.

Q: So, it's mostly pre-grunge?

That's the whole point of the book. About how alternative music evolved into the grunge movement. It's really good. The Replacements chapter is hysterical. The Minutemen chapter is really funny too. It reveals that the Minutemen didn't know about tuning strings on the guitar. They thought it was just a preference things. You know, some like them tight, while others like them a bit looser. (laughter)

As it was now time for Eddie and the rest of Art Brut to prepare for the night's show, I wished them good luck and headed upstairs in anticipation of their performance.

Live show reviews from the Mercury Lounge.